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PostSubject: ATMF Vs TERRORIZER MAGAZINE   Thu 27 Nov - 12:35

A statement from ATMF about paranoid politically correct censorship

JANVS were recently censored by “TERRORIZER”, a well-known English magazine distributed world-wide and deemed as a point of reference for extreme metal music. As that highly regrettable fact is grounded on the supposed as well as manifestly unfounded JANVS’ right political affiliation, we think it should be viewed as an opportunity to make some brief and lucid observations about the intellectual climate and police state currently existing in the so-called “independent” music press.

Here it is what happened:

After Louise Brown, Managing Editor of “TERRORIZER”, listened to the JANVS’ new album “VEGA”, she suddenly and definitely congratulated the band members on the new artistic phase they entered. She also showed interest in promoting JANVS in the “Breaking Faces” section devoted to the newest bands. So we called James Hoare, Deputy Editor of “TERRORIZER” and responsible for this magazine section, and, again, he recognized and stressed the value of “VEGA”. But we were then asked a question about some experiences band members had when they were younger and their supposed right political affiliation. As in our opinion we are not the appropriate interlocutor to provide such personal information – being, above all, strictly linked to individual opinions –, we didn’t answer the question by considering it as a bad and inappropriate remark. Rather, we expected that the artistry of “VEGA” was evaluated, for what the album is in its substance and expresses. However, at the same time we suggested the magazine team to remove any doubts in that regard, if in its own interest, by interviewing the band.
From then onwards, we received no reply. So we resolved to call Mr. Hoare again to clarify the whole question. He answered us that as we didn’t “make public amends” (we’d like to know what for, actually), “TERRORIZER” – in Mr. Hoare’s own words, a magazine which must have a very cautious approach to what it publishes – couldn’t support JANVS, despite the band has a recognized added value. When we asked which passages of “VEGA” were suggestive of political hints, the album being of a broader nature and having wider perspectives, we encountered a wall of silence from people who seem wanting to play the role of a censorship policeman dealing with supposed personal opinions (as no remark was made about the actual contents of “VEGA”) and acting as resolutely as a reliable CIA official may do – or better to say, a KGB or DDR official by reason of the magazine’s political orientation acknowledged by its team in the last telephone conversation with us. It was also suggested that even ATMF is politically labelled, whereas it acts relying on spiritual and cultural grounds. During our last unpleasant telephone conversation with the editorial team, we stressed how blind the magazine’s attitude seemed to us, as the magazine carelessly supports bands such as Sepultura and Napalm Death. Moreover, some other inappropriate remarks were made, e.g. “you see, our magazine name ‘TERRORIZER’ originates from the band bearing the same name … so …” (we’ll let you guess what these words intended) or “our readers are, above all, Death Metallers and Black Metal is not of great importance, actually”. All these were elusive remarks for not acknowledging what was already obvious, i.e. the magazine’s political orientation.
It seems that the whole question was initially raised by a “TERRORIZER” reader who called the editorial team (we have doubts that it really occurred, actually) to report how dangerous the JANVS’ project was.
Thus, we wonder whether it is still possible that this type of narrow-minded individuals, defeated by their own lack of dignity, may affect public opinion in such a mean and devious way by manipulating editorial decisions of a so important magazine and whether readers shall still support a magazine which is so held to ransom and fears its own shadow.

After this unbelievable fact, which is not the first and will not be the last, the word “extreme” needs to be redefined. Luckily, other similar magazines keep on providing all-round editorial products driven by genuine interest and free from such distorted mindset.
However, there is someone who thinks readers are dumb idiots unable to decide what is the best for them and that they need to be kept unaware of potential “dangers”, such “dangers” perhaps making them think freely and helping them deciding what is worthy of their support and what is not, according to the genuine artistry involved rather than the plastic attitudes making the system risk-free. And that is the most reprehensible aspect of this whole sad affair.
If this is the editorial policy put forward by “TERRORIZER” – of course, the magazine is free to impose it –, its statement of intent should be clear and known by everyone.
Thus, we invite all music labels and magazine readers still believing in music as a way to break free from the modern world’s trends, to firmly support any actors really acting freely, making the word “independent” something authentic and not behaving submissively and deviously by paying attention to politically correct reactions.

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PostSubject: Re: ATMF Vs TERRORIZER MAGAZINE   Thu 27 Nov - 15:39

Terrorizer mag should focuss more into Nigger music rather than extreme metal like they pretend to be.
Terrorizer mag is not extreme anymore in term of metal, they are just worth to represent the metal genre at the next London gay pride in order to show how metal people are now normal and politically correct.

So, the best is to boycott this crappy gay magazine imo.
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PostSubject: Re: ATMF Vs TERRORIZER MAGAZINE   Thu 27 Nov - 17:22

Yeah, in the same level, ZERO TOLERANCE is better!!!

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PostSubject: Re: ATMF Vs TERRORIZER MAGAZINE   Thu 27 Nov - 22:13

VwH wrote:
Yeah, in the same level, ZERO TOLERANCE is better!!!
Zero Tolerance seems pretty trend-hopping to me.
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PostSubject: Re: ATMF Vs TERRORIZER MAGAZINE   Thu 27 Nov - 22:20

In order to keep the sales to the broad mainstream public who are easily offended by reading an article about Hitlers favourite cuisine or such bullshit
mean mean black metal is suddenly not a part of them anyway but hey are we brutal or what? 666
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PostSubject: Re: ATMF Vs TERRORIZER MAGAZINE   Thu 27 Nov - 22:34

That´s how the mainstream media behaves nowadays. Here in austria we have and had same problems.
That´s a reason why i boycott all big print media zines. The only things i read is forum stuff, FOEDUS AETERNUS ZINE, Fatal Underground Zine from Germany and some smaller austrian webzines.

@Noktu: Wasn´t it the same with Celestia and that good damn shit zine Lgaycy from germany?
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PostSubject: Re: ATMF Vs TERRORIZER MAGAZINE   Thu 27 Nov - 23:35

rauta wrote:
VwH wrote:
Yeah, in the same level, ZERO TOLERANCE is better!!!
Zero Tolerance seems pretty trend-hopping to me.

Well for the price, its quite nice. But there are also lots of shitty bands in, for sure, including the samplers..!

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PostSubject: Re: ATMF Vs TERRORIZER MAGAZINE   Thu 27 Nov - 23:47

about Zero Tolerance (for who?), I enjoyed the first issues I got, but I didn't subscribe again, I finally find it empty and too much trendy. Everything is swedish D-beat in this mag.

I prefer Metal Maniacs.
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PostSubject: Re: ATMF Vs TERRORIZER MAGAZINE   Fri 28 Nov - 14:33

I had an issue with Celestia and Legacy Mag(ger), that's correct.

They tried to do a politcal oriented interview in order to humiliate the noble aristocratic ideology behind the concept of Celestia. I've played the game and I've answered their questions. But the journalist added some quotes where he was clearly expressing his narrow minded humanist ideas. The problem is that I was not even able to comment what he said and I fear the interview ended to be published even without my approval. But I wonder at the end who was humiliated at the end.

I think that Black Metal scene should take a distance with mainstream music press, especially when this press do not respect extreme metal ideals. They are trying to forge a wrong image of extreme metal scene. A scene where everybody is nice and happy.

Terrorizer for instance should stop to call themselves extreme music mag since there is nothing extreme in this mag.
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PostSubject: Re: ATMF Vs TERRORIZER MAGAZINE   Fri 28 Nov - 15:03

As far as i know, they only had it published on their website but not in the printed magazine.
It is simply disgusting what happens there. They act like the Gestapo of political correctness.
That even ends up in foul blossoms like the band Hackeneyed. Google that bandname and you will understand what i mean.

It seems that they need happy and nice left winged pro animal and pro nature bands, so that they can sell their shit everywhere without the fear of being neglected cause of extreme content.
It is simply disgusting. On the one hand they want to sell individualism and evil, but on the other hand it should all be nice and with no serious meaning.
Browse these zines and you see how many bands are prostituting themselves, just to fit into their disgusting concept, so they sell many records and make their money.
That´s the biggest rip - off going on in nowadays metal scene. They dictate people what to think, what to like and what to avoid. If a label does not pay enough money to them or buys not enough advertisement space, they ruin their bands and drag them into dirt.

I am sure if ATMF would have bought advertisement space for some hundred euro, they would have praised JANVS up into the sky.
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PostSubject: Re: ATMF Vs TERRORIZER MAGAZINE   Fri 28 Nov - 18:05

money is not stronger than stupidity nowadays. If these people decide that one band or one individual is not correct, they will do their best to destroy him.
ATMF were putting adverts on regular basis in Terrorizer and I think they will have understood the lesson now.
Drakkar once tried to put an advert of Terrorizer and one interview with Celestia was agreed too but when they received the publicity with Arghoslent on it, they said that this band was carrying an obvious racist ideology so they decided to not work with Drakkar anymore.
This is inverted fachism and censorship like the Nazis were doing during the war.

Acting like that will only raise hate against people like this. I know from a reliable source that something strong is happening to destroy them in Europe. This is just a matter of time, they declared a war to the freedom of speech and they'll probably have to pay for this.

Once again, I invite all persons able to provide us informations about anti fas organisation to enter in touch with me. We need names and addresses !
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