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PostSubject: Darken @ Summoner Zine -> Bootleg Rip-Off   Tue 29 May - 1:31

Klick

another victim

Beware of this guy, he may seem sincere and cool at first, but in fact he is selling/trading bootleg stuff mainly from LLN bands without declaring them as bootlegs.

He send me a fake Mütiilation Demo I posted in this Forum before:

Klick

He tells you like he got this from his "Summoner zine" (does that exist?) years ago in the 90ies and stuff.... Also he send pictures of the demo without the tape out of the box to make sure you don't see it's a brand new tape. After you may notice this most likely isn't the orginal thing he says like "...it's probably a NoColours rerelease"....which isn't an excuse, because if this would be true (I bet it isn't), it still isn't the self-released original he declared as.

WARNING! On ebay he deals under the name "carpathian-forest" from Romania...better do not bid!!

Email: summoner_zine@yahoo.com

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Eugen Gheorghiu
Of.Postal 1, C.P.44
Sibiu, SB 550450
Romania


Spread this to prevent others to fell for his tricks. Selling bootlegs is a matter of taste if you like that crap stuff but selling bootlegs with declaring them as "100043089% quaranteed ORIGINAL" is simply betraying.


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PostSubject: Re: Darken @ Summoner Zine -> Bootleg Rip-Off   Tue 29 May - 3:06

I almost bought something off this guy a while ago, I'm glad i didn't and i appreciate the warning.
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PostSubject: Re: Darken @ Summoner Zine -> Bootleg Rip-Off   Tue 29 May - 14:27

Even the MÜTIILATION demos "rereleases" by No Colours had a xeroxed insert. At least that's what's on mine I got years ago. Maybe they did bootleg tapes with pro inserts later, but I have serious doubts, considering the usual low quality of the releases (in terms of packaging I mean).

And never buy an old demo out of some unknown guy out of eBay! Or pay it 5$, like I did with a SoL tape I got from a greek seller. A good dub with pro insert, that was worth the cash, but I guess some idiots will pay 50$ for this one...

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PostSubject: Re: Darken @ Summoner Zine -> Bootleg Rip-Off   Tue 29 May - 14:57

I didn't buy from him on ebay. It was my "investigation" that he sells on ebay under that pseudonym.
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PostSubject: Re: Darken @ Summoner Zine -> Bootleg Rip-Off   Tue 29 May - 17:07

Mr Nuke wrote:
Even the MÜTIILATION demos "rereleases" by No Colours had a xeroxed insert. At least that's what's on mine I got years ago. Maybe they did bootleg tapes with pro inserts later, but I have serious doubts, considering the usual low quality of the releases (in terms of packaging I mean).

The No colours records site still sells mutiilation demo's, the guy could still be buying them from there and sellign them on. I onced asked them if they were genuine, and even they wernt sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Darken @ Summoner Zine -> Bootleg Rip-Off   Wed 30 May - 8:04

It's called a fucking shotgun. Learn how to load it and then use it.
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PostSubject: Re: Darken @ Summoner Zine -> Bootleg Rip-Off   Wed 30 May - 14:21

Nuclear Holocausto wrote:
I didn't buy from him on ebay. It was my "investigation" that he sells on ebay under that pseudonym.

So expose him! But still, buying original old demos from people in Eastern Europe or South-America, except from a few individuals (like Milos from Monster Nation and a few others) is like buying a Ferrari replica on a Corvette chassis...

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PostSubject: Re: Darken @ Summoner Zine -> Bootleg Rip-Off   Wed 30 May - 23:49

Yep. I know it was quite a dump move. I have learned from it for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Darken @ Summoner Zine -> Bootleg Rip-Off   Sun 3 Jun - 18:10

@ Nuclear Holocausto:

Have you even bothered emailing me before making all these absurd statements? Yes, some of the items were ordered through No Colours Records, some others from other distros and during the past few months I decided to let go all items that I either don't listen anymore or those that I have more than a copy. The Mutiilation 'Satanist styken' demo, IF it is (as claimed) a bootleg (although as I already stated, it's been in my possession for countless years, and if indeed it is a second press, then it's a very good quality one) - why can't you simply email me and ask me to replace it with something else? Do you really have to make all this show with a hundred topics in which to whine and complain how much you've been victimized, strangled to death, ripped off, mutilated and beaten up, and how the blood of the innocents was pour by the merciless hands of Eastern Europe barbarians. A simple message would've been quite sufficient to work everything out.
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PostSubject: Re: Darken @ Summoner Zine -> Bootleg Rip-Off   Sun 3 Jun - 19:08

OK, everyone has spoken. Finish your deal through PM please!

Thread closed for now.

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